The Wild New Theory of Cancer (It's GOOD For You?) : 1522

Quantum Scientist Patrick Coles Reveals How Tumors Protect Your Mitochondria From Toxic Overload 

Cancer might not be the enemy your doctor says it is. What if tumors are actually your body's emergency detox system, built on purpose to protect you from something far more dangerous? 

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Host Dave Asprey sits down with Patrick Coles, Ph.D., Chief Scientist at Normal Computing, where he develops novel computing hardware for AI applications. Previously a Staff Scientist at Los Alamos National Lab, Coles led their near-term quantum computing group and made significant contributions to quantum computing theory. He holds a Ph.D. in Chemical Engineering from UC Berkeley and a Master of Philosophy in Biochemistry from Cambridge, and he's currently developing a new theory for cancer and chronic disease, the subject of this conversation. His rare combination of hard physics and deep biochemistry gives him a radically different lens on one of medicine's most misunderstood diseases. 

Coles lays out his Toxin Sequestration Theory, a framework that reframes cancer tumors not as malignant accidents but as intentional storage vaults the body builds to sequester toxins, heavy metals, seed oils, mold, and excess glucose, away from healthy tissue and mitochondria. He and Dave connect the dots between this theory and chronic disease, biohacking fundamentals, and why chemotherapy itself behaves as a toxin that can backfire. They dig into oxalates, deuterium, linoleic acid, circadian biology, and the detox protocols that support the body's natural ability to shrink these toxic reservoirs. 

This conversation challenges the mainstream genetic theory of cancer, explores the metabolic theory popularized by Thomas Seyfried, and lands on a radical, functional medicine-aligned framework for anyone serious about longevity, anti-aging, and human performance. Dave and Coles also break down how sleep optimization, fasting, ketosis, and a carnivore approach to nutrition support the body's detox hierarchy, from fat tissue and the liver to moles, cysts, and eventually tumors themselves. 

This is essential listening for anyone serious about biohacking, functional medicine, mitochondria health, brain optimization, nootropics, and taking full control of their metabolism and longevity. 

You'll Learn: 

• Why toxins may be the root cause of Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, autism, and most chronic disease 
• How Toxin Sequestration Theory reinterprets tumors as the body's backup detox organs 
• Why chemotherapy ranks among the most tissue-damaging toxins, and what happens when a tumor bursts 
• The role of oxalates, deuterium, heavy metals, and seed oils in cancer cell hoarding 
• Why moles, cysts, lipomas, and nodules may be minor versions of the same detox response 
• How circadian rhythm, sleep, and light exposure affect the body's toxin excretion cycles 
• What spontaneous tumor regression reveals about lowering your toxic burden 
• Why tracking tumor progression matters no matter which treatment path you choose  

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Keywords: toxin sequestration theory, cancer theory, Patrick Coles, quantum computing scientist, thermodynamic computing, Normal Computing, Los Alamos National Lab, chemotherapy toxicity, oxalates cancer, deuterium toxin, Stephanie Seneff, heavy metal detox, mycotoxins tumors, seed oils cancer, linoleic acid, oleic acid oxidation, lipid peroxidation, glucose toxicity, mitochondria downregulation, genetic theory of cancer, metabolic theory of cancer, Thomas Seyfried, spontaneous tumor regression, backup detox organ, circadian rhythm cancer, mold toxins, forever chemicals, microplastics, bile flow, activated charcoal binders, cholestyramine 

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Timestamps:  

00:00 – Trailer 

00:58 – Introducing Patrick Coles 

04:08 – Toxin Sequestration Theory 

06:26 – Defining a Toxin 

14:13 – Cancer as Backup Detox Organ 

15:01 – History of the Theory 

16:30 – Deuterium and Oxalates 

21:31 – Cancer Theories Compared 

28:06 – Chemotherapy and Toxic Overload 

37:23 – Tiered Toxin Storage System 

45:17 – Diet, Light, and Circadian Rhythm 

50:39 – Detox Protocols and Binders 

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